Notes For Echo Lake - 4
Who did he talk to
Did she trust what she saw
Who does the talking
Whose words formed awkward curves
Did the lion finally talk
Did the sleeping lion talk
Did you trust a north window
What made the dog bark
What causes a grey dog to bark
What does the juggler tell us
What does the juggler’s redness tell us
Is she standing in an image
Were they lost in the forest
Were they walking through a forest
Has anything been forgotten
Did you find it in the dark
Is that one of them new atomic-powered wristwatches
Was it called a talking song
Is that an oblong poem
Was poetry the object
Was there once a road here ending at a door
Thus from bridge to bridge we came along
Did the machine seem to talk
Did he read from an empty book
Did the book grow empty in the dark, grey felt hat blowing down the street, arms pumping back and forth, legs slightly bowed
Are there fewer ears than songs
Did he trust a broken window
Did he wake beneath a tree in the recent snow
Whose words formed difficult curves
Have the exaggerations quieted down
The light is lovely in trees which are not large
My logic is all in the melting-pot
My life now is very economical
I can say nothing of my feelings about space
Nothing could be clearer than what you see on this wall
Must we give each one a name
Is it true they all have names
Would it not have been simpler
Would it not have been simpler to begin
Were there ever such buildings
I must remember to mention the trees
I must remember to invent some trees
Who told you these things
Who taught you how to speak
Who taught you not to speak
Whose is the voice that empties
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A difficulty for many readers of L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y is its preoccupation with fragments, nonsense, and unmeaning; as well its rejection of the narrative model that has been the basis of nearly all types of literature. The traditional mode of reading for referential meaning does not work, as writers of this type of poetry attempt to unlock meaning by first unlocking our preconceptions (and preoccupations) of meaning.
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Whether L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y succeeds to gain a large audience is irrelevent. The movement has brought together a dedicated and insular community that thrives on each other's ideas and perceptions. Many poets who are not L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=S have gained a new sense of their "poetic" place and understanding from simply exploring the movement's aesthetic. Ironically perhaps, many writers considered L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=S resist the label and attempts to define themselves within it. Despite similarities between the work of John Ashbery and L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y, Ashberry has said he doesn't align himself with these poets because he believes language should ultimately depend on references to meanings generated outside language.
More on this is available at the Poetry Previews website., Wikipedia, Poets dot org, Electronic Poetry Center, and UBUWEB, among others.
It seems to me that I need something like a Philosophy of Poetry in order to understand this aesthetic. For some poets, poetry is their way of understanding the world, much like science is a scientist's way of understanding the world. Take science away from a scientist and we have a person who seems lost and looking for a way to understand the world and himself/herself in it. The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poets are not interested in taking poetry away from anyone; they want the poet to be aware of the political nature of language itself, and to consider that a word means what we agree on it to mean. As a teacher, I'm all for metacognition. The metacognition that results from the type of awareness recommended by the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poets seems to me a special type of awareness that is made possible by literary critics generally. It's another means of refining one's aesthetic.
Who did he talk to
Did she trust what she saw
Who does the talking
Whose words formed awkward curves
Did the lion finally talk
Did the sleeping lion talk
Did you trust a north window
What made the dog bark
What causes a grey dog to bark
What does the juggler tell us
What does the juggler’s redness tell us
Is she standing in an image
Were they lost in the forest
Were they walking through a forest
Has anything been forgotten
Did you find it in the dark
Is that one of them new atomic-powered wristwatches
Was it called a talking song
Is that an oblong poem
Was poetry the object
Was there once a road here ending at a door
Thus from bridge to bridge we came along
Did the machine seem to talk
Did he read from an empty book
Did the book grow empty in the dark, grey felt hat blowing down the street, arms pumping back and forth, legs slightly bowed
Are there fewer ears than songs
Did he trust a broken window
Did he wake beneath a tree in the recent snow
Whose words formed difficult curves
Have the exaggerations quieted down
The light is lovely in trees which are not large
My logic is all in the melting-pot
My life now is very economical
I can say nothing of my feelings about space
Nothing could be clearer than what you see on this wall
Must we give each one a name
Is it true they all have names
Would it not have been simpler
Would it not have been simpler to begin
Were there ever such buildings
I must remember to mention the trees
I must remember to invent some trees
Who told you these things
Who taught you how to speak
Who taught you not to speak
Whose is the voice that empties
By Michael Palmer
From http://jjgallaher.blogspot.com/2006/09/michael-palmers-poetry_07.html accessed 4/24/08.
From http://jjgallaher.blogspot.com/2006/09/michael-palmers-poetry_07.html accessed 4/24/08.
Palmer is frequently associated with Language Poetry, a connection which he responded to in a recent interview in Jubilat by saying: "It goes back to an organic period when I had a closer association with some of those writers than I do now, when we were a generation in San Francisco with lots of poetic and theoretical energy and desperately trying to escape from the assumptions of poetic production that were largely dominant in our culture. My own hesitancy comes when you try to create, let's say, a fixed theoretical matrix and begin to work from an ideology of prohibitions about expressivity and the self—there I depart quite dramatically from a few of the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poets."
From the poets dot org website accessed 6/14/08.
What is L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poetry? I got what seems to be a nice introduction from the Poetry Previews website:
L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y was born in 1971 with the release of a new magazine titled This, which culminated in the release seven years later of the magazine titled L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E. The early 1970s was an ideal time for a new movement in poetry. Early challenges to mainstream poetry had already begun, thanks in large part to the Projectivist poets of Charles Olson, a Black Mountain poet.
L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y was not simply a movement to bring renewed interest to language, but to the structures and codes of language: how ideas are represented and formulated to transmit ideas, thoughts, and meaning. Jerome McGann writes of L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y in his essay "Contemporary Poetry, Another Route": Here a conscious attempt has been made to marry the work of the New American Poetry of the fifties with the poststructural work of the late sixties and seventies. As Frost, Yeats, Auden, and Stevens are the "precursors" of the poets of accommodation, Pound, Stein, and Zukofsky stand behind the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E writers. Oppositional politics are a paramount concern, and the work stands in the sharpest relief, stylistically, to the poetry of accommodation.L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y also recognized that language is political. In the same way that American farmers hid behind tree trunks and took pop shots at British soldiers who stood in formation in open fields during the revolutionary war, L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=S fractured the language in an attempt to wage their own rebellious assault against the social and political structure inherent in the Imperial force of the English language.
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A difficulty for many readers of L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y is its preoccupation with fragments, nonsense, and unmeaning; as well its rejection of the narrative model that has been the basis of nearly all types of literature. The traditional mode of reading for referential meaning does not work, as writers of this type of poetry attempt to unlock meaning by first unlocking our preconceptions (and preoccupations) of meaning.
...
Whether L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y succeeds to gain a large audience is irrelevent. The movement has brought together a dedicated and insular community that thrives on each other's ideas and perceptions. Many poets who are not L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=S have gained a new sense of their "poetic" place and understanding from simply exploring the movement's aesthetic. Ironically perhaps, many writers considered L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=S resist the label and attempts to define themselves within it. Despite similarities between the work of John Ashbery and L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E P=O=E=T=R=Y, Ashberry has said he doesn't align himself with these poets because he believes language should ultimately depend on references to meanings generated outside language.
More on this is available at the Poetry Previews website., Wikipedia, Poets dot org, Electronic Poetry Center, and UBUWEB, among others.
It seems to me that I need something like a Philosophy of Poetry in order to understand this aesthetic. For some poets, poetry is their way of understanding the world, much like science is a scientist's way of understanding the world. Take science away from a scientist and we have a person who seems lost and looking for a way to understand the world and himself/herself in it. The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poets are not interested in taking poetry away from anyone; they want the poet to be aware of the political nature of language itself, and to consider that a word means what we agree on it to mean. As a teacher, I'm all for metacognition. The metacognition that results from the type of awareness recommended by the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poets seems to me a special type of awareness that is made possible by literary critics generally. It's another means of refining one's aesthetic.
2 comments:
Now this is fairly hilarious, I must say—praising Pound and Stein for their "oppositional politics": the former who accommodated himself quite nicely to the craven pig Mussolini, the latter who cheerfully accommodated herself to Vichy's Marshal Petain and who praised "the Führer's qualities of greatness" (see http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n5p22_Weber.html). If Palmer wants to approvingly cite these two fascists as part of L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poetry's pedigree, he is welcome to do so. But the rest of may be forgiven for being amused by his claims for the importance of both the movement and its precursors.
Thank you Joseph for opening my eyes re: Gertrude Stein. I did not know that she A) was pro-Hitler B) cultivated Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Picasso, Matisse or that C) her novels, memoirs, lectures and plays were ever regarded as "stylishly avant garde."
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